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Welcome To The New Nazified Soviet Union Of America : Personal Liberty Digest™
Welcome To The New Nazified Soviet Union Of America

December 16, 2011 by Bob Livingston

PHOTOS.COM
The passage of the National Defense Authorization Act has turned the U.S. into the USSR.
In the days of the old Soviet Union, people considered enemies of the state could disappear at any time. Rarely would families learn the fate of their loved ones, who were shuttled off to gulags and tortured or simply shot in the head and deposited in a hole in the ground.
Americans rightly decried such actions and held America to a higher standard: a bastion of freedom. Who living then could have envisioned that such a thing would come to America?
But here we are. The passage of the National Defense Authorization Act has turned the U.S. into the USSR.
The bill authorizes the indefinite detention of American citizens without trial. We have become the USSR and Nazi Germany wrapped into one. The Constitution is shredded, the Bill of Rights nullified. There is bitter irony that it happens on the anniversary of the ratification of the Bill of Rights.
Some have been fooled into believing the bill does not apply to Americans. But as Congressman Justin Amash (R-Mich.) has pointed out, the wording is cleverly disguised doublespeak. Section 1032 says: “The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.” Read it again this way: “The requirement… does not extend to citizens of the United States,” meaning the detention is discretionary rather than required.
Who is foolish enough to think that a President who will assassinate an American without trial would not exercise this discretion? The President who campaigned on closing Guantanamo Bay will now have the authority to fill it up with Americans.
Co-sponsor Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) made clear what lawmakers have in mind when he said: “If you’re an American citizen and you betray your country, you’re not going to be given a lawyer.”
Supporters of the law say the President already had this authority and all the bill does is codify it into law.
Never mind the Constitution, Article III, Section 3 of which says: “No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.”
Our lawmakers tell us that no longer applies. The law is what they say it is, Constitution be damned.
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Bob Livingston is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter for 42 years. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.
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s c says:
December 16, 2011 at 2:01 am
The world’s puppet masters must think their Russia vs. America experiment didn’t work out well enough. I guess they need more options. Now, they want to combine a long-ignored blend that is a USSR and Hitler’s Nazi hybrid.
Since form must follow function (and Obummer is the #1 in-house decision-maker), the prez CAN’T distance himself from this bastardized, mutated monstrosity (will his ‘talents’ never end?).
OK, who’s guilty today? Who’s guilty tomorrow? Who was guilty last week? I’m sure our media whores will gladly furnish master lists via all the news that’s fit to print.

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Flashy says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:23 am
Except that this provision is already being challenged in the courts by none other than the ACLU. You know…the one organization that everyone on this forum hates? the bastion of freedom and protector of the Constitution?

Congress can make any law it chooses. The POTUS can sign any bill he/she chooses to sign. But whether it is allowable under the Consitution …that is for the courts to decide. If the Courts decide the Constution alows such dtainment, then under the interpretation given by the courts…we never had such Rights to begin with. (I am NOT saying we do not have such rights…far from it. I am making a point).

i have no doubt whatsoever that when the unPatriotic Act was passed, when Padilla was taken into custody and tossed into jail to rot with counsel and interrogated, when the prisoners at Gitmo underwent torure and held without even their identities being known…i have no doubt whatsopever few posting here objected. i would guess some castigated anyone who dared raise issue with it.

yet today, when some freak who has American citizenship, sitting in a foreign country, in the front lines actively participating in planning to attak us, when that freak is snuffed…y’all squeal and howl like a stiuck pig. But when our Rights and freedoms were actuively attacked in the 00′s…you laid over and didn’t even ask for vaseline to ease the pain.

look back at those days you let fear rule your reasoning as you blithely allowed our Rights to be trampled. Who was fighting against those detentions and for our Rights? THE FRIPPIN’ LEFT ! And today you castigate the very ones who had the backbone and bravery to do what you would not.

Think about that. Make ya proud?

Me? If my Rep and Senator is being primaried…I don’t care what the opoenent stands for or says during the campaign…they get my vote. I am not voting for the incumbents. Will you say the same or is “your guy’ going to get your vote…the very same guy who is part of the problem we have today…

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Donahue says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:32 am
“Flashy”
Senator Inhofe here in Oklahoma says this does not apply to American Citizens. Once this “door is opened, just a “tad bit”, we know what comes next… Doesn’t it always get wider and wider? We all know how the Government “changes” the meaning of words don’t we?

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Flashy says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:44 am
Which is why it is being challenged. Let’s see who else besides the ACLU challenges the provision in the courts. I note that so far those courts that have protected our rights have been from the courts holding judges placed there by Democratic administrations. Anyone think the current make up of the SCOTUS will rule for our Rights?

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Sherrill says:
December 16, 2011 at 9:49 am
Yes! I agree with you. It sets a precedent for further government control on its citizens. I don’t think they really think about the outcomes a particular bill can have further down the road, and about how a particular bill might seem benign at the time, but can be used in the future by someone who interprets the wording and uses it against the very citizens it was put in place to protect. Or perhaps it was in the play book the whole time?

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carol says:
December 16, 2011 at 10:55 am
Sherrill, THEY know exactly what THEY are doing. They have been orchastrating this for decades. Those with the money make the rules.Those with the truth see the light. THEY have to be stopped.

These people have been starting wars and crises to empower themselves and to redistribute your wealth. The global elite know better than you. If their puppets even think they will be allowed to exist after THEY have used them, they are sadly mistaken.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

wandamurline says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:44 am
You are correct…and another prime example is TSA at the airports. Every criminal in America has the right of probable cause, mirandizing, warrant and legal counsel…not so if you are boarding a plane in America. You can be pulled from the line without probable cause, your belongings seized without a warrant, without mirandizing and without your right to legal counsel….all stomping the 4th and 14th Amendments in order for you to “feel safe”. It was a test to see how many Americans will be sheeples and follow the pied piper…and they do it by the thousands on any given day. America is headed toward another revolution…and our forefathers expected this, and told us that it was our duty as Patriots of a Republic to remove corrupt tyranical government and replace them with constitutionalists, lest we lose our freedoms…the time is at hand.

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Jim says:
December 16, 2011 at 9:21 am
Technically,
It is false imprisonment and detention by those “officers”,
which is unlawful, by the way.
They are not deputized, and you are not mirandized while being detained. I think more people should file a complaint (sue) the INDIVIDUAL “officer” (TSA goon), not the agency, as the tsa has your own tax money to fight you with. If you go after the individuals on a civil, personal level, you might just be able to weed them out eventually.

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Capitalist at Birth says:
December 16, 2011 at 10:46 am
I have flown 22 round trips between St. Louis and Denver in the last 24 months, and not once was I required to go through the dangerous scanners (which I would refuse to do), nor have I been patted down. You would think that I would have been exposed to this illegal action at least once. Is it really as bad as has been portrayed in the media? Just a question.

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Capitalist at Birth says:
December 16, 2011 at 10:47 am
I think the security at the airports should be privatized and be the responsibility of the airlines, and not a part of the government.

Troy says:
December 16, 2011 at 10:07 am
I would hope that your selecting one to vote for is more thorough than what you say. I agree with you for the most part but how would voting for just anyone be better than voting for what we have. I understand your anger and how that my be providing a lack of thought in your choice of words but wow.

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OkieRon says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:51 am
–and while all of recorded human history is part of a vast, complex, subtle liberal agenda spanning centuries to corrupt the minds of the pure white race and enslave them, only this holy handful of people at Fox News are the carriers of the Divine Light of This Mysterious Truth About This Global Conspiracy to Enslave RealAmericans–only they know the Absolute Truth, and anyone who disagrees with them is a traitor and/or a ‘media whore’, and a NaziCommunistSatan-lover? Am I understanding that right? ‘Just want to make sure I’m hearing what you guys are saying on here…

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Cheeky Monkey says:
December 16, 2011 at 11:27 am
I really wonder how long it will be before the American people wake up and decide to throw out all the idiots out – impeachment comes to mind as a way to do it now. My greatest fear is not that Romney or Gingrich get the nomination – it’s that there will be some disaster – man made or otherwise – that will cause the current administration to declare martial law, suspend the constitution, and push the police state down the throats of Patriots.Such a scenario would be the end of this great experiment known as the United States of American and we will become the U.S.S.A. (Union of Soviet States of America).I weep for my grandchildren.

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cawmun cents says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:11 am
As the wise man once stated:

I like to have fun,racing and then some,
I’m a dirt talkin’beer drinkin’ woman chasin’ ministers son.
Slap on the make-up,blast out the music,
Wake up the neighbors with a roar,like a teenage heavy metal
elephant gun.

If you call that guilty….then thats what I am.
I’m Guilty!
I’m Guilty!
-CC.

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James says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:21 am
Most things are now in place, it is time for the end game!!

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Donahue says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:36 am
James,
They are working on the internet now and Hillary Rodham (Jewish maiden name)Clinton is working with the UN on weapons of self defense, like let’s use tax money to sell weapons to Latin American Cartels and take our guns away so they can eradicate us! Once the Internet is controlled and our tools to protect ourselves, we’ve had it! Mark my words as I have seen this coming for some time now!

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Keith Luxton says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:27 am
When Reichmaster Obama first became popular with the liberal rabble,
I knew we were in deep trouble. Now it is proven. The next move will be to suspend elections. Maybe even before 2012 elections. That way we have the pleasure of his vision for god knows hoow many years.

I used to thnk communism would take over from USSR and China, never expected Americans to fall for their BS. Well the saying is we live and learn. Until that saying applies to the liberal rabble. We are in deep S***. Please do not give me that BS that it cannot happen in USA. It has happened.

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Flashy says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:45 am
Keith…you do know who put that clause in the bill don’t you? perhaps before you spout off, you should check that small item.

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Donahue says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:28 am
This “opens the door” for total complete control and limiting “free speech” and freedom of thought for, if you say something that offends the “elitists”, they will come in black clothes, load you up, haul you off for an “indefinite” period of time as you are a “threat”…

Welcome to the New One World Government !!!

Oh I feel for my children and grand children. – “sheeple”

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darren says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:33 am
well i hear its pretty good at gitmo. I wont have to work or pay taxes and then i will know what it feels like to live the new american dream where everyone else pays my bills.

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robert says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:37 am
if everyone would just shut up and get a job at wallmart
seling american flags that are made in china

EVERYTHING WOULD BE ALRIGHT

obama told you about hope and change when running up against bush
HE HOPED HE WOULD GET IN so that NOTHING WOULD CHANGE
cause they are all buddies behind closed doors
and all bought and paid for by the new world order

youtube WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THEY SPRAYING and then tell me they give a dam about YOU OR YOUR CHILDREN

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Michael says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:45 am
And the “Concentration Camps” are currently being “opened” by FEMA for such an occasion as this law allows.

http://www.texemarrs.com/122002/concentration_camps_in_america.htm

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FreedomFighter says:
December 16, 2011 at 7:51 am
Day America died, write it down guys, its official.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

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Mushin says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:05 am
A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.
Thomas Jefferson

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Keith C. Parsels says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:04 am
Any member of congress that voted for or sponsored this bill needs to brought up on treason charges after being thrown from office. Short and sweet.

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William L collins says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:50 am
I agree

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OkieRon says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:33 am
Nah, actually America died the day Dick Cheney seized power as the first Unelected President in American history. The plan went all the way back to Cheney’s time in the Nixon White House, including the creation of an ignorant, crowing, fear-mongering propanda machine at the disposal of the (formerly Republican) Confederacy Party–which came to be known as Fox News. Under Cheney’s watch, Americans passively rolled over for secret meetings between the President and the energy companies to discuss our “national security” (and we still can’t get the minutes of those meetings), he brought us legalized, official-policy government torture, prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, Blackwater Security (America’s first private corporate army, and who you really ought to fear as a coming police state)–and a ‘war to nowhere’ that will have cost us that $1.5 trillion that righties are always c-r-o-w-i-n-g that the liberals somehow cheated America out of. They literally helicoptered in pallets of millions of dollars and handed it out to god knows who in Iraq.

SO BY ALL MEANS, you keep wasting your energy seeking out the “terra plots” of the socialist-commanist-nazi-hommasexual Obammanid conspiracy to suddenly turn our police into robot socialist automatons who are suddenly going to hunt pudgy, armed-to-the-teeth white people down and kill them in their beds. That makes All the Sense in the World.

I’m reminded that, the whole time the Nazis were rounding up Jewish people into the ovens, the Nazis weren’t the ignorant, gunned-up, racist bullies–they were simply a bunch of poor, misunderstood RealGerman SuperPatriots who were just defending themselves pre-emptively (the “Bush Doctrine”"! ‘Though I’m sure President Cheney authored it)from the Vast Liberal Jewish Conspiracy spanning the ages–which sought to poison the minds of average Germans with book-learnin’, discussion, compromise, and world history. Only the Nazis stood toe-to-toe against the entire world in their clear, uncompromising opposition to anything other than their narrow set of beliefs. And in cooperation with massive corporations like Krupp Steel and I.G. Farben–the Koch Bros. of their day–they burned Germany to the ground in order to “save” it. But not to worry, Krupp, Farben, and Koch will always walk away without a scratch, and they keep all the money.

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Tazio2013 says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:50 am
Very intelligent, balanced and objective posting; thought you’d be interested in this item re “Iraq war ends with a $4 trillion IOU”.

http://www.marketwatch.com/Story/story/print?guid=B5F9E144-272F-11E1-A0B0-002128040CF6

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Tazio2013 says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:35 am
Wednesday, December 14, 2011
Finding Comfort in Authoritarianism

Source
J.G. Vibes
Activist Post

Between recent legislation like the deceptively named “defense authorization act” and the daily police brutality that is occurring all across the country, things are looking pretty bleak for America and the values that it was apparently founded on.

Anyone who has studied history can see the writing on the wall, and can tell that these developments are eerily similar to actions that were taken by the some of the worst dictators that this world has ever known.

Regimes like Stalinist Russia, Maoist China or Hitler’s Germany are among the worst offenders in recent memory, but if you look at their actual policies they aren’t very far off from what we’re seeing in the West today.

It is very common to offend people when you start comparing our current police state with governments that have been painted in a negative light by mainstream history. I would agree that all of the aforementioned regimes were absolutely horrible, but their transgressions were on par with the native American holocaust and the medieval torture that takes place at Guantanamo bay and many other covert military bases across the planet. This may be a controversial way of looking at things, but if we don’t take a comparative look at history then we are inevitably doomed to repeat it.

The people in these countries that supported these regimes were not marching zombies, chanting in unison with swirling blank eyes like you would see in a comic book or cartoon. They were simply people who were manipulated by fear, and constantly lied to by very convincing authority figures who made it seem like they were doing some wonderful things and paving the way for civilization.

Typically, those within an aggressively expanding empire are still thinking in terms of defense, because their leaders have convinced them that outside enemies are a serious threat to their livelihood. Most people living under these conditions typically refuse to believe that their “fair and benevolent leader” is hell-bent on conquest and world domination.

For an authoritarian regime to survive it is necessary for them to convince their citizens that their violence is justified and that they are “the lesser of two evils”. For people to accept a life of oppression they must first think that their lives will be far worse without the “protection” their abuser. This is a strong symptom of an unbelievably common condition called Stockholm syndrome, which I covered in a previous article.

During the Second World War, all of Eurasia was drowning in authoritarianism of various shapes and sizes. Both the Soviet and Nazi regimes were responsible for brutally murdering millions of people and maintaining an extremely poor quality of life for those who managed to live. Citizens in each country were told horror stories about one another, which justified the brutality of the homeland police state that they were living under. Surely horror stories weren’t hard to come by as each government was guilty of a long list of horrific human rights violations. However, these two governments squabbling over who treated their people better is similar to the Crips having a moral argument with the Bloods about whose neighborhood is the safest. As in every case, the lesser of two evils was still an intolerably evil.

The Germans feared the Russians to death, and the Russians feared the Germans to death, but sadly most of them died at the hands of their own government, not the government that happened to be their “enemy”. Today we are living in very much the same situation where people all over the world are terrified of foreign governments, all the while being extorted and oppressed by the government that they have been indoctrinated to worship.

The most cruel and violent dictators throughout history have always been able to convince their people that their depraved behavior was necessary in order to keep the people safe. If a dictator doesn’t succeed in this, than he won’t last very long as a dictator. This is why Muammar Gaddafi spent a small percentage of his pilfered fortune on multibillion dollar social services, and that is a big part of the reason why he stayed in power so long. This same strategy was used by Al Capone, who set up soup kitchens in the city of Chicago to keep the local townspeople on his side. These are all examples of public relations tactics which were used to create a positive public image for operations that were actually detrimental to those who supported them.

Looking into history can give us a better idea of why the Patriot act and a half-dozen illegal wars have been relentlessly defended and supported by such a large number Americans. Like so many other victims of oppression in the past many of our brothers and sisters are finding comfort in authoritarianism. What we can also learn from history is that this comfort is always short lived, because corruption always grows exponentially with the acquisition of power. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely; this theory is so well tested that it should be considered a law of nature.

Eventually the envelope continues to get pushed until it is no longer possible for the world ignore the injustice that is taking place. This is the good news, because the moment that they get too drunk on power and cross the line is the moment that the sleeping giant of the world’s population is awoken — and that is a force that no tyrant could dream of contending with.

J.G. Vibes – is an author, and artist – with an established record label. In addition to featuring a wide variety of activist information, his website – Good Vibes Promotions hosts electronic dance music events. You can keep up with him and his forthcoming book Alchemy Of the Modern Renaissance, at his Facebook page.

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Rennie says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:38 am
Do not vote for anyone who supported this, do not contribute one penny to a political party that supported this, rep or dem they just erased one of the most essential promises within the Constitution they swore to uphold and protect, and WHY? Obama wanted to unite people, this has, left and right, we want our country and freedoms back, it won’t end just with voting Obama out.

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Tazio2013 says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:40 am
THE CORE CHARACTERISTICS OF FASCISM

While we contend that fascism is without principles, that is not to say that it does not have core characteristics. Rather than representing a platform of principles from which to rule, however, these characteristics represents processes and tools that empower the State apparatus. As times and conditions change, a fascist State will shift message, priorities and effort, all for the purpose of self-preservation. At times the State will appear pro-market, other times it will claim national exigencies demand that it assume control of production in the economy. Commonly observed traits, however, include:

Nominal or no limit on the power of the State. Whether explicit or de facto, when the State ceases to recognize limits on its authority, it is displaying a core characteristic of fascism. This is often seen in the broad powers that are granted to the law enforcement, military and the intelligence apparatus. As a related aside, a common observation in fascist regimes is that law enforcement and military cease to be viewed as members of the community in which they serve. Their encroaching and increasingly heavy handed tactics become the source of discontent among the people which in turn results in increasingly hysterical propaganda from the State.

Significant spending on national defense. Regardless of the financial conditions of the State and its subjects, military spending is virtually unaffected by financial stress occurring in other segments of the economy. The State recognizes that political power is meaningless without the force to back it. Money goes to salaries, weapons, research and various military adventures. In Germany and Italy in the 1930s, significant production and economic benefit was bestowed upon the military and the military industry. This is still the case in some countries today.

Key segments of the economy are granted cartel status by the State. Industries including agriculture, health care, banking, energy and manufacturing find themselves submitting to the State’s plan for production or being run out of business. In a fascist regime, the State typically does not actually seek to run the enterprise, they merely dictate the conditions and stipulations under which producers must operate.

A final note on fascism. It is commonly held that fascism is a right-wing form of government. We hold that the differentiation between left and right in this context is completely meaningless. North Korea and the former Soviet Union certainly can be characterized as fascist. The key characteristic is a high degree of force and deceit that the State deploys in self preservation.

This brief article is far from an exhaustive study on the matter of fascism. Lew Rockwell of the Mises Institute and Richard Maybury, author of the Uncle Eric series of books have dedicated many years of academic research to this topic. Much of what we have captured in this short primer is a result of their pioneering work. For those interested in further study of fascism, its history and how it manifests today, we encourage you to seek the works by these two remarkable men. See “The Fascist Threat” by Lew Rockwell and the Uncle Eric books here.

URL: http://www.dollarvigilante.com/blog/2011/12/15/fascism-for-dummies.html

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susan says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:44 am
I agree with Keith C. Parsels :’(

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jay Lindberg says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:44 am
Practice your goosestep, Zeil Heil. It really is that simple.

And you wondetr why there is a secession movement in this country. I don’t.

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zeprin says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:49 am
Well, just as long as the morning of 21 Jan ’13, XPrezbo and his main Lt.s are rounded up and shipped off to Gitmo. Then I won’t have quite as big a problem with it.
They can rescind the order after that.

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Bob Livingston says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:58 am
Dear zeprin,

Your logic is flawed. This was passed with a majority from both parties. You must divest yourself of the false left/right paradigm.

Now, listen to what the republican beauty contestants are saying and determine for yourself which one will end this nonsense and which ones will continue it. There is one that stands out.

Best wishes,
Bob

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LT says:
December 16, 2011 at 8:56 am
It is dangerous to be right when your Government is wrong. ~Voltaire~

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Jim says:
December 16, 2011 at 10:20 am
I agree and to show my ignorance who was Voltaire???

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Harvey says:
December 16, 2011 at 9:31 am
This and the personal army that Odumba wanted are one of the reason for the NEED of our Second Admendment. People do not take this lying down. Our very existence and freedom are at stake. Now the prez can make anyone including you that disagree with him disappear.
Civil war looms closer every day this socialist/communist mudslum non-citizen remains in power. If he gets re-elected American citizens will start disappearing for not going along with his illegal, irresponsible, socialist/communist, anti- American and mudslum’s beliefs. How can America be destroyed in which short time frame of one prez term?
Lock n load!

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JDN says:
December 16, 2011 at 9:38 am
History is the best lesson for anyone . Watch and listen as those with the least or are the least desirable in society are rounded up or persecuted . You will hear the masses chear those efforts and thats when you should run because that means your next .

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BigBadJohn says:
December 16, 2011 at 9:40 am
Like ya’ll always say “only congress can write legislation”. Who/what party controls congress?????

Be careful what you wish for, it just might come true……

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Jim says:
December 16, 2011 at 9:41 am
If this article was referring to the self proclaimed Al Quida chief in Yemen that happened to be American as an assisnation targeted by our government then I am clapping and cheering that decision. To think that this same action will be exercised in the US or elseware if we can’t get our hands on them is ignorant. As far as this law goes I think some people are taking it out of context but time will tell. It doesn’t matter what laws they pass that may or may not be against the constitution we as Americans who still beleive in it will stand up when the marbels start to roll and defend it. You can cherry pick and trump up charges here and there and take anyone down in the courts now at days but when it happens at a large number of people the citizens will react.

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'jake says:
December 16, 2011 at 9:47 am
Not true. Read the data, choose your options: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:2:./temp/~c112OkIfLM::

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grossyi says:
December 16, 2011 at 9:58 am
I swore to uphold and defend the constitution. I have and I will, despite the laws passed by communists, liberals, neocons and RHINO’s. Despite Supreme Court rulings contrary to common sense. I can read, I understand the Constitution and my oath to both uphold and defend it. Party affiliation be damned.

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Jim says:
December 16, 2011 at 10:15 am
Well said.

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Bob Marshall says:
December 16, 2011 at 10:20 am
This is what come from a nation having so many ignorant people. Keep letting the government thin-tanks think for you and we can all talk about what went wrong one of those non existent FEMA camps one day. the US government has the best PR in the world and American are so easily led.Like cattle to a slaughter.it worked with the illegal Iraq war and it worked again with the bombing of the Revolutionary Guard and the killing of thousand of innocent civilians as they were leaving Kuwait following through with UN Resolution 660through Soviet meditation on Feb. 21.1991. http://www.globalresearch.ca/“Highway of Death” “It is fortunate for the governments that the masses don’t think.” Adolf Hitler.

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By George says:
December 16, 2011 at 10:42 am
Tyranny, It’s Here

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is the new vehicle to ensure our oppression by a tyrannical government. Representative Buck McKeon (R-Ca.), Chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services wrote a defensive piece in RedState titled Myths on the New Detainee Policy. He had intended to allay our fears about the hidden trap in this unconstitutional piece of legislation. He is quite mistaken as are Georgia’s two Senators who voted for it. The threat to the 6th Amendment and thus American citizens in this bill, is real.

McKeon claims the act does not address or extend any new authority to detain U.S. Citizens….But, in fact it does! The NDAA actually grants, indeed, mandates immense unconstitutional power to the White House. The President is to be afforded absolute power to use the Army to arrest and detain US Citizens, without due process, i.e.: a warrant issued by a judge or a preliminary hearing to be advised of charges, let alone a trial. (Sec 1031).

The act affirms that arrest and detention, by the Army, of “covered persons” within the United States is legal. Section 1031 reveals all: “a covered person” is one who engages in terrorist acts, or anyone associated with an organization guilty of belligerent acts.” So, regardless of the protections afforded by the 6th Amendment, the Senate’s bill will actually allow the government to lock up any citizen it wants if someone swears he/she is a terrorist. How hard is that?

Now is a good time to review an earlier unfortunate and unchallenged change to our thought processes. A few years ago, Liberals wanted to make certain crimes more horrible than regular old crimes so they added “Hate Crime” to our vernacular. Why? Because some liberal said so and we bought into it. Now we have a Marxist President who, through his toadies like Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano, who have already identified TEA party members, returning veterans and retired cops as potential terrorists to be detained until the end of the war. Well, it’s not legal simply because some stupid politicians say it is. And, as for stupid politicians, it is Carl Levin and John McCain whom we can thank as the architects of this unconstitutional monstrosity.

Proponents refer to Section 1021, NDAA, pages 655 and 656 to deny that arrests and detention of US Citizens are authorized. It applies, it is said, only to al-Qaida and associates. However, two different sections of the act contradict each other. We even hear from the Chief of Staff of Senator Chambliss that the bill does not authorize such draconian action and Ga. Rep. Westmorland even produce this denial: “I understand the concerns and that is why there were numerous questions asked about this, so I want to reassure that you will be protected. The U.S. Constitution guarantees U.S. citizens on U.S. soil will have due process and nothing within this legislation will take away that right. These people claiming your constitutional rights are violated by this legislation are using fear tactics to drum up support against legislation that is needed to make sure our men and women in uniform get paid for their service to our country”.

Well, I still have not yet lost the faculty to read and reason and I am not sanguine in those assurances from the “elite political class”, especially since they come from politicians who have lost our confidence and have lost their way. Let’s be honest, the wording that would allow the arrest and detention of American citizens is still there and like a land mine, waiting to explode in our faces. Really, do we any longer still want to put our trust and belief in somebody who say’s “Trust me, I’m from the government and I just want to help you? ” Remember Freedom is the goal, The Constitution is the way. Go get em!

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Dwayne B says says:
December 16, 2011 at 11:56 am
Surviving Marshall Law, look it up and study it. It is upon us– Good luck on the other end.God Bless the America I once knew.

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