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Greetings from Guantanamo Bay! : Personal Liberty Digest™

Greetings from Guantanamo Bay! : Personal Liberty Digest™

Greetings from Guantanamo Bay!

December 17, 2011 by Ben Crystal

Posted: 12-17-2011 at 12:01 am


Ben Crystal is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.
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sook young says:
December 17, 2011 at 3:34 am
I agree that the Arizona sheriff should stand strong. He has received death threats for investigating Obama’s birth certificate and other things about his background. Iran doesn’t want to give us back the drone they shot down? Since when did we expect them to do that? I guess they will now have something they can use to help defend them in the event of a war. I hope this keeps Obama from attacking them. I don’t want our soldiers to go to Iran. I guess time magazine will praise a man for poo pooing on a police car, but will overlook the real patriots of the Tea Party. What is wrong with them? Are they delusional? 성탄 잘 보내세요! Merry Christmas and thank you.

Sook Young
Wife of the Samurai

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FreedomFighter says:
December 17, 2011 at 7:31 am
“Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County AZ is now receiving death threats as a result of his investigation into Obama’s birth and social security records. The Sheriff has collected sworn testimony from over 20 experts who claim that the birth document is a computer generated fraud.

Arpaio’s investigation has also broadened beyond an examination of whether or not the birth certificate is an authentic document. The findings of his cold case team will be made public in February. With the passage of the Defense Authorization bill Obama now has the power to arrest and order the indefinite detention of Sherrif Arpaio, so you may not get to hear about the results of his investigation. A de-facto state of Martial Law is indeed now in effect in the USA.”

Full artical:

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1513/896/Obama_To_Arrest_Sheriff_Arpaio.html

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

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Ronbo says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:54 am
Seriously dude! Death threats? I don’t think someone saying “someone should put that foolish man out of his misery.” is a death threat.

Get a grip on reality!

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Kate8 says:
December 17, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Ronbo – Looks to me like you are the one detached from reality.

Another liberal troll existing in Obama fantasyland.

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Jerry Owens says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Sounds to me like Ronbo has worn pink underware or is wering pink now.

TrvlSEA says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:29 am
I thought everyone was crazy talking about the birth certificates.. It was the whitehouse dot gov website that makes me think twice.

I searched “birth certificate” in the field and was lead to this link…

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

Click the link below Obama’s photo and it pulls up a terrible copy which, if you scroll all the way to the bottom of the page, it’s pulled from the snopes website. Seriously? Isn’t there a scanner in the house???

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 9:39 am
Congratulations SOOK in not wanting to go to war with Iran.

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Vigilant says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Sook Young,

You will never have to worry about the US attacking Iran in a “boots on the ground” sense. The military mavens long ago concluded that the sheer size of the nation (something like 5 times larger than Iraq), plus the nature of the terrain, would make it futile to ever attack the country.

Any hostile action would most likely revolve around surgical attacks by Israel to neutralize the nuclear threat, combined with covert actions to undermine the regime from within.

Speaking of which, Dr. Paul has made it clear that Israel has a perfect right to defend itself.

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Dntmkmecmoverther says:
December 17, 2011 at 7:42 am
How did we KNOW that the Gubmint would try to step on Joe to silence him? I say to Joe: the Gubmint is the ‘terrorist’…take them out Joe.

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FreedomFighter says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:26 am
Support Joe and every other American – get ARMED, with plenty of ammo:

PRK Arms on CBS 47 news, Fresno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hCOdL64cNYE#!

a little humor never hurts. Buy them, train up, get ready.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

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Gayle says:
December 17, 2011 at 7:52 am
The bill that has detention of Americans is 1,844 pages. Just what else is in it? Ridiculous. Even some dems are against this part. Heard he hasn’t signed yet, but what can you believe. Just know we’ll (Americans) back you and others up if this fool carries this out. We really do have to make a stand if he pushes this before elections.

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DH says:
December 17, 2011 at 11:04 am
He really does not have to sign it. After a certain number of days sitting on his desk, it would automatically become law.

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BrashMonkey says:
December 17, 2011 at 7:55 am
What Obama’s DOJ is doing to Arpaio is criminal! Black Panthers show up with night sticks and black leather and stand out in front of a polling place in Pennsylvania, in a menacing manner, and Eric Holder’s corrupt DOJ looks the other way. I’m telling you, people are not stirred up enough about this!! If this doesn’t signal an end to America’s greatness, I don’t know what could. The tea party needs to rise up against Obama’s corruptness and demand that Congress start impeachment proceedings. First things first, we need to somehow uncover who was involved, and what exactly they did to cover up their little shenanigans. Geez, a corrupt Chicago politician in the White House, who could have possibly seen this coming!!
/sarcasm

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Mike says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:12 am
The DOJ had the New Black Pnther Party members found guilty on those charges. It was Eric Holder who told them to stand down. It is not the DOJ that is corrupt. It is the leadership of the DOJ, Holder and his boss that are corrupt. And, yet they are still in power.

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BrashMonkey says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:20 am
I stand corrected, your version of the facts are more accurate. Fire Eric Holder then, and the linkage to him and Obama ought to be clear enough. Probably not impeachment worthy, but if someone ever does connect all the dots to Obummer and his corruptness, it would be!

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FreedomFighter says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:32 am
Obama’s Watergate, Domestic Drones, New Riot Shields & More: Infowars Nightly News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8703f77WGOQ&feature=uploademail

We are now all enemys of the state, according to Obama and congress.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

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Ronbo says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:58 am
Obama is working for the 1%. He is the Republican “dream” candidate because he is doing everything that they desire (expand wars, limit citizen rights, expand pilfering of public funds into for-profit public pilfering) and they get to call this Republican trojan-horse a “liberal”. They get their cake and eat it too!

eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:23 am
You’re all nothing more than little propagandists for still hyping up that NBPP story. I know it makes you feel good to pump up the issues but all I see is desperation on your part. Only 1 panther had a billy club and never threatened anyone and never used it. No conspiracy and no one was stopped from voting so keep up the political grandstanding. You would all fold like a cheap suit if there ever was a real threat or kill alot of innocent people to make a win. You’re nothing more than wolves in sheep’s clothing. If the NBPP is such a threat then we would have to be far more worried about the hundreds of Militia and Minutemen groups.Do you choose to forget Chris Simcox who has made numerous threats even against family members? How about Matthew Hale of Idaho? Maybe you would like Holder to take a closer look at their behavior. That would make the NBPP come out looking like choir boys. At the same time in 2008 (election day) Michael Jacques and two others burned down a black church in Springfield,Mass. in protest over Obama’s election. Now that is real election violence and intimidation! It’s odd how you never hear about that on this site but you rehash one person having a billy club,ad nauseum.

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Karolyn says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:45 pm
And another revealing site about Arpaio
http://www.arpaio.com/

Karolyn says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Arpaio is a power-hungry fascist, in general just a truly abhorrent human being who would probably bust his own mother.
http://www.sheriff-arpaio.com/

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Thomas Prather says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:04 am
America has already become, at least to a great extent, another Nazi Germany, or Stalinist Russia. A nation where the government can decide to put the power of the state to their own desires and to punish with it, all who object. We must vote out the Marxist-in-chief and remove as many of his accomplices as possible.

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Warrior says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:58 am
Here’s a good article describing our current state of affairs. Go Paul or go back to sleep.

http://www.congressinsiders.com/2011/11/did-congress-actually-think-the-super-committee-would-succeed/

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EDWARD BAUCHOU SR says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:10 am
USA HAS TO STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS WHEN THE BLACK PANTHERS OR ANY OTHER GROUP GOES TO THE LEVEL OF IMIMIDATION AS THE BLACK PANEHERS DID, THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED.

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Ronbo says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:59 am
Isn’t that what the Nazis said about the Jews?

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JC says:
December 17, 2011 at 9:59 am
No, it isn’t.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:37 am
More Black Panther lies Edward Bauchou. Can’t any of you get the story straight or are your minds living in a petri dish where the story spreads like cancer. Now who is your favorite right wing group who is actually intimidating folks and taking the law into their own hands. I mentioned Chris Simcox of the Minutemen above or how about Richard Poplawski of Pittsburgh? He was convicted on June 24th of harrassment,racial hatred and the killing of 3 police officers. He was also convicted of 25 other crimes but what is one more in a long line in his over the top right wing propaganda and intimidation.Read up on him and see the literature and the things he says. You may be looking in the mirror and he could be a kissing cousin of what gets said around here.

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Gottaplenty says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:14 am
Election isn’t over yet. Speeking of voter fraud how many of those computer controled ,electronic voting machines do you not think isn’t a godsend to those chicago thugs running the voting booths… We had better get back to paper ballots and ink fingers,fingerprint. Now that would realy get the libs and ACLU on the streets.

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Ronbo says:
December 17, 2011 at 9:00 am
Dude, the wealthy and the 1% WANT Obama to win. He is doing everything they need to turn government into their for-profit dictator.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:40 am
Didn’t Gottaplenty know that the ACLU is one of the strongest fighters for civil liberties in the USA. They are in the forefront of this Defense Authorization Bill in stopping the detention of American citizens.

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Jeff Chiacchieri says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:15 am
Look at this Orwellian move right out of the Hitler playbook. Figures Obama would encourage the obamabots under the guise of “having fun” to turn their friends! What will Ohitler do with a list of his enemi…es? Now that he has sections 1031 & 1032 of the Defense Authorization Bill for martial law and to make the USA as a battlefield, they can indefinitely detain any American without access to legal counsel if they are potential threats to Otraitors dictatorship. https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/o2012-your-inspiration-nd?source=20111213_js_misc&utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_campaign=20111213_js_misc

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J.W. Miller says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:21 am
A Marxist is in the White House surrounded by cronies and toadies. He was placed there, even after it was an in-your-face fact that he is an affront to our Republic. We have a Congress infested with Socialists/Marxists.and some who still insist on calling themselves “Progressives”. It’s definitely time for change–vote them all out!!!

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Waldomountaionman says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:44 am
When it comes to Washington remember reelect no one, it is time for a clean sweep, especially those who have been there longer than two years. Time for term limits and all laws apply to them with no exceptions, and same insurance as us regular folks.

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Sirian says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:14 am
I fully agree with you WaldoMM but there lies a multi-faceted problem in that objective that must be overcome. Term Limits, by means of Constitutional Amendment, must be ratified by two thirds of the states before it can be implemented. But without a very strong, clearly understandable, without added amendments that are cleverly slid in all the time, this will never come about. Even more so, who do we have in Washington that actually has the balls, literally, to push for an amendment of this sort to the fullest possible extent? None that I am aware of. I know that it has been brought up before but it usually is quietly shoved under the rug, so to speak, and that action is then used for campaign rhetoric. Would it benefit the nation on whole to add this amendment? Without doubt, absolutely!! Yet again, it is a multi-faceted problem that will be very, very difficult to overcome. I personally have had this in mind for well over twenty years but again, the stretch all of us must make to grasp the “golden ring” on the Washington Merry-go-Round has continued to stay a bit to far away.
My agreement runs parallel to you also when it comes to Representatives and Senators etc. not being rewarded with immediate retirements and “Cadillac Medical Benefits”. Allow them no more than the V.A. without special accommodations and being brought to the front of the line. Nope, get in line like everyone else. See, multi-faceted problems that must be overcome. Is it impossible? NO! But as to whether or not it will ever come about – Lord how I wish that it will – is up to all of us, not merely a few that understand at present what we’re up against.

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John Burleson says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:30 pm
J. W.: The federal government is not infested with Marxists. Marxists have principles. The federal government is the largest (535 + 2) gang of thieves in the world. I wish I had the time to research how many Swiss bank accounts are held by these criminals; how much property they own in countries that do not have extradition treaties with the US; and how many of them keep jets flight-ready parked close to a runway at Reagan International. I agree we should vote the lot of them not only out of Washington, but into the Potamac. I estimate it’d take a new bunch at least a year to figure out the lid on the caviar jar.

I fear no scum. John Burleson.

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John Burleson says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:34 pm
eddie47d: Go back to your village. They miss their idiot.

I fear no scum. John Burleson

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Hannah says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:31 am
Yes, We have to stand up for are right’s or we will be mowed down,I think Sheriff Joe Arpaio is doing a GREAT job,Of course the people up to NO good want him out.I totaly beleive in Jan Brewer,as are govener she is on the right track,other states has followed her lead,but the goverment won’t let her do what is right in our state,we are on the Border and need her help.Please everyone who want’s good to happen in this U.S.A.,get involved before it is to late,Keep up the GOOD WORK,,Sincerely Hannah in Arizona

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Karolyn says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Check out the links I posted above about your beloved Arpaio.

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KennyB says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:34 am
I think this administration has pushed us far enough. If anything was to happen to Joe, we all need to stop what we are doing, take the time and our last dollar if needed and head to the capitol in Washington. Not just 10 or 20 thousand, but 10 or 20 million of us. We need to show this bunch that they work for us, we are in charge, not them. This can be done in a non-violent way too. If we make a STRONG stand and really pull together, help one another, get involved, we can make a difference. Those who have not already joined Freedom Connector please do so. This is a local place where we can all meet and join forces. We have to unite with one another because there are more of us than they are of them. http://connect.freedomworks.org

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:51 am
Make sure you all wear your pink underwear in solidarity with Arpaio. LOL! Actually I doubt if you could pull the Washington demonstration off. Look how hyped up that Veterans Day protest was and the promise of thousands when few even made it.

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Karolyn says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Are you serious? Do you really think you could get a crowd that large to protest for Arpaio? You have got to be kidding me! That’s the best laugh I’ve had all week!

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Wyatt says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:34 am
When anonymous death threats didn’t deter Sheriff Arpaio didn’t work , Obama rolled out his favorite tactic , smear his name . It worked with Herman Cain so it should with this sheriff . But to be sure he added a new twist , Eric Holder and the DOJ . Strip him of power and say he is not allowed to do his elected job and duty . This is a trick Nazi Germany liked to use and was also a favorite tactic of Soviet Russia . And should this fail I have no doubt Holders own Black Shirts ( Black panthers ) will be marching on Sheriffs office .
At anyrate Obama will get his wish , anarchy and civil war or the down fall of America . He just can’t face the fact that Socialism , his great love is and always was a total failure . His ego is out of control , bet he even thinks America Loves him

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:59 am
The Nazi “tricks” is more in liking to the coordinated police attacks and roundup of OWS protesters. Welcome to the beginning to gulag America where free speech and assembly is under threat. Can I get a big Hip Hip Hurrah for those actions! That a way boys and girls and they actually used those billy clubs.

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Average Joe says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:42 am
If this is signed into law, it will mean the complete destruction Of the Constitution. The moment it is singed by Obama, it is time to remember another document…And implement it!

The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Take Our Declaration of Independence Quiz and Test Your Knowledge of America’s Great Freedom Document
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

If this bill is signed into law, it is time for us, the American people, to take up implements of destruction and pay a little visit to Washington,D.C…..in masses. At that moment, it becomes time to throw down the gauntlet..or all is lost….Time for a good old fashioned, “Showdown / Throwdown” in D.C.

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Don says:
December 17, 2011 at 11:26 am
AMEN to you JOE, these crooks have gone to far..

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Lawrence Ekdahl says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:50 am
The brainwashed indoctrinated electorate put him in office. Now the sheeple will have to live with it just as the german people had to live with Hitler.

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Ronbo says:
December 17, 2011 at 9:03 am
Both political parties are owned by the wealthy. Until you vote for someone out of their control, it doesn’t matter who gets elected.

Third-party is the only way to go! The Repubs and Dems are merely different sides of the same coing residing in the pocket of the wealthy.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 11:04 am
Dick Cheney was more of a Hitler than Obama could ever be Mr Lawrence.

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Don says:
December 17, 2011 at 11:29 am
eddie,,,, your full of sheet, why don’t you S-Y-F-M !!!!

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Don’t think so Don! Prove me wrong about Cheney. Who was the biggest cheerleader of the Patriot Act? Who was the master of water boarding? Who sucked us into the Iraq War? His coyness during the Vietnam war and taking both sides with those 5 deferments didn’t show much courage either. I’m just saying that Cheney was more masterful and much more in tune with Nazi indoctrination.So if you want to bring up those FEMA camp claims against Obama they were all there during the Bush/Cheney Administration. That is if they really exist for your stated purpose.

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JC says:
December 17, 2011 at 12:38 pm
There’s no damned difference between them anymore eddie.
Comparing the who’s who of the left and right is a complete
waste of time.
The whole system needs to be fumigated.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:42 pm
You said it better than I could JC.

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Marbro says:
December 17, 2011 at 9:20 am
After a 10 year hunt, the FBI finally captured Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, our original home grown terrorists and bombers associated with the Weatherman underground and fellow travelers like the mis-named Students for a Democrat Society.

Unfortunately for our country, Jimmy Carter had been voted into office. His DOJ decided that there was a legal technicality and dropped all charges for the bombings and other terror acts. Dohrn did get convicted of not cooperating in investigations of another terrorist, but that has not stopped her from infiltrating our educational system (as did Ayers and Tom Hayden) so they could “mold” the minds of our college students and then our younger students.

The convicction did not stop Dohrn from being on the board of the ACLU.

Whenever Dems are in office, they abuse that office to let their henchmen slip free. Consider Marc Rich and the terrorists that Bill Clinton pardoned on his way out the door. (Wasn’t that pushed by Eric Holder?)

These issues slide by while we are occupied in arguing about how best to punish the successful.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 11:12 am
That is your problem, you equate greed,ponzi schemes,insider trading,cooked books and unimaginable wealth with a person being successful. The successful know they can get away with jerry rigging the free market system and the punishments aren’t severe enough to keep them from continuing their practices. That is why all the anger against corporations and Wall Street. No immagination needed to see what is going on!

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Glenn says:
December 17, 2011 at 9:32 am
Sherrif Arpio is only doing his job of enforcing the law. It is only natural that Obama and his hencmen want to crush that sort of activity. Think of all the minority votes Obama and Holder can get by destroying someone who is doing their job.

Nazi America has arrived along with a tax increase for Christmas.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 11:56 am
The Arizona Law Enforcement Officials also have to obey the laws that could threaten the well being of all citizens. That is what this “lawsuit” is about.Is Joe Arpaio guilty of misdeeds himself. Maybe not but there are mistakes being made in how they handle cases or those they apprehend. In May of 2009 his Deputies entered a home of a Latino man and his 12 year old son. They had no warrant and both were American citizens yet both were jailed.Nothing was ever proven against this man.They have jailed legal residents who have valid work visas,Social security cards and Arizona identification cards. One man was kept in jail 13 days and lost his job. They have proven that phony charges have been drummed up against those arrested. There are also charges of sexual abuse in his prisons and they are never investigated. Even when immigrant children are arrested and molestation occurs nothing is done to the perps. If Arizona’s police find any group of Latinos being in one place the police arrest them all whether citizens or not. They are deemed guilty until proven innocent.That’s tough for anyone to prove when sitting in jail . I doubt if Arpaio will be prosecuted although his department will be reprimanded. With all the drug smuggling and gun running that goes on in Maricopa County most charges against his department will be overlooked. Maybe that way Holder can make a deal for himself.

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Karolyn says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:56 pm
The man is just a creep! He was interviewed by Michael Moore and made a complete fool of himself talking about how Amsterdam must be a disgusting filthy place with addicts laying all over the streets because drugs are legal. The next shot was of the beautiful city of Amsterdam, clean and in all its glory. He’s a pretty ignorant piece of work.

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Carlucci says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:21 am
RON PAUL 2012 – !!!

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Lawrence says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:31 am
The ETF Report copyright 2010
Lawrence Sarsoun Melbourne, Florida

Week of Nov. 21. Happy Thanksgiving, And How To Celebrate Jubilee. Jubilee comes along about every 50 years or so. If I understand it correctly, it is a time when debts are forgiven, when debtors are relieved of their debts, in affect, the slate is wiped clean. So it is quite significant that we should get into the spirit of Jubilee. For it was 1965 when the last of our money was stolen in one of the biggest heist in history. Let me explain.

Prior to 1965, the Federal Reserve (which is NOT Federal, and has no reserves) used to issue notes (definition of a Note – an I.O.U., evidence of debt, evidence that money was borrowed). The notes used to say “This note is legal tender for all debts public and private, and is redeemable in lawful money at the United States Treasury, or at any Federal Reserve bank.” Which your editor attempted to do in 1965. This led me to a search into our money system and culminated in the book, “America’s Monetary Mess”. I found my way to the ultimate explanation of our law, the Constitution, which explained, in rather straight forward English, that our money was to be coin of gold and silver, that the standard of value (what we would use to price our goods and services) was to be fixed, that the Congress was given the power to coin such money, that the States could only use this gold and silver coin for the settlement of debts, and that, therefore, any borrowing by the Congress had to be limited to the coined gold and silver coins in circulation. Issuing of notes in excess of coined gold and silver would be fraudulent and thus illegal, i.e., unconstitutional.

So off I went to redeem my notes. It was curious to me that the government’s Silver Certificates had, at the same time, became inconvertible, irredeemable also. In time, the President would ultimately close the “gold window” to foreigners, so that they, even they, could no longer obtain real money in settlement of our foreign obligations.

Now, this is where Jubilee comes into play. If notes are inconvertible and cannot be redeemed in lawful money, then any so-called loans become suspect. Any mortgage or credit card debt, or ANY borrowing of so-called “dollars” is to be questioned, because we assumed that we were receiving dollars, that a Federal Reserve Note was an I.O.U.
for a dollar. But the definition of a dollar can be found in the Coinage Act of 1792, which established, FIXED, the standard of value, as a silver coin of 371 ¼ grains of Silver, .9 fine, such standard coin to be called by the term, dollar. Did you borrow money to buy your house? Did they indeed lend you dollars? If they lent you notes that were NOT redeemable in dollars, what did you borrow? What did they lend you? Remember, the States can only use gold and silver coins a tender in payment of debts. Did they lend you gold and silver coin?

Now, an aside to see what God thinks about this. His thoughts are in the book of Proverbs, specifically Proverbs 20:10 and 20:23. Diverse weights and measures are where Article one, section 8, clause 5 came from. It was this biblical exhortation that prompted the Founding Fathers to establish what ultimately became the Bureau of Weights and Meaures, which came to be copied on a local level by every State in the nation, and the first Coinage Act. After all, what nation would be so clueless as to allow a group of private citizens (some are even foreigners) to be able to create “money” out of thin air by the mere application of some ink on paper? 1965, huh? Prayer in the schools, the disappearance of God’s Word from the schools?

Let’s think about the days leading up to Jubilee. Do you think, with Jubilee coming, that there would be much lending going on? How about interest rates? Remember the good old days in our country, when the States had laws against usury. If the “money” is dead (or dying), might we not expect there will be a rush to judgment? If God thinks divers weights and measures are an abomination, what might He think of outright fraud and theft?

Now, if your argument is that you did receive something of value in these transactions with these fraudulent pieces of paper, consider this. Did not the Israelites leave Egypt with spoil? Did not the Israelites inherit a land flowing with milk and honey, a land that they had not toiled over or even planted? As an American Christian, I have adopted an interesting approach. When recently ticketed for a seat belt violation, I tendered with my check a query to the clerk, the trooper, and the judge as to how they were managing to be a party to what looked like fraud in violation to their oath to uphold the Constitution? At the store, when I am asked for “dollars”, I simply ask if they will accept Federal Reserve Notes in lieu of dollars, which usually gives me an opportunity to discuss the issue. As we near the end of times, it seems likely that the U.S. currency will be massively debauched, with the result of hyper-inflation and prices on a biblical scale ala the book of Revelation.

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Sirian says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:50 am
Lawrence,
Check out this book – “The Coming Battle” by M. W. Walbert, copyright 1899. I do believe you will find it very interesting.

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Sirian says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:35 am
Stand by folks, Eddie47d is back. . .

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:46 am
There are more than a few around here that need a challange or at lest a different perspective. You can’t all be expected to think in lock step or do you?

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Sirian says:
December 17, 2011 at 10:52 am
HA, as expected, come on Eddie, you can’t even take a joke. Calm down, everything is fine.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 11:01 am
Then you ought to laugh real hard at my comment to Kenny.Blog on brother!

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DH says:
December 17, 2011 at 11:06 am
In encouraging the OWS, Obama is already guilty of sedition.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Those who encourage corporate shenanigans and Wall Street insider trading should be the ones changed with sedition. Anyone caught manipulating the American economy for personal financial gain needs to have charges brought up against them. Yup, that includes a few politicians.

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JC says:
December 17, 2011 at 12:40 pm
It would include over 90% of all the politicians from both parties.

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jerry sweet says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:26 pm
eddie47 THIS ONES FOR YOU>when it blows, AND ITS GOING TO,stand up and be an AMERICAN AND AT LEAST GO DOWN FIGHTING.OH WAIT YOU CANT,YOUR A LIB.YOU WOULd STAND URINATING DOWN YOU JERKING LEG AND WATCH THEM RAPE YOUR OWN WIFE AND COWER DOWN.LIBS LIKE YOU TALK DOWN REAL PATRIOTS AND TALK,TALK TALK ETC.YAWN!!you must like being debased because WHY? do you insist on taking the heat you do here and keep coming back for more.deficating on any police cars yet.as for the rest of us we are over 300 million and they know it.its going to be a real brawl.give this patriot liberty or give me death.but to lie,and be enslaved by liars,patrick henry said it all and i agree.fights on!!

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:46 pm
The only thing urinating down my leg is the drool flowing from your mouth.You need a back flow installed!

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jerry sweet says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:36 pm
amen lawrence.but dont expect the eddie47′s to understand any thing that has to do with common sense.you first have to have it to use it.as for you eddie47 i really do apologize for the attack.WHY? because i truly do try and follow my LORD and HIS true church doctrines,and sometimes my patriotism gets in the way.not that i wont fight for whats right,but GOD has shown me if it were not for His wisdom He has given me,i too would be another eddie47..i just hate stupid and it just comes out.

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eddie47d says:
December 17, 2011 at 1:48 pm
We’d like to know which God you worship Mr Sweet. Can’t be the one with a Son named Jesus!You really do need to practice on that wisdom part!

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